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#1 ReNBa ODenRoH

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 09:46 PM

hi everybody! :bye:

meron na ba sa inyo nakakuha ng MCQ ng AMC? baka naman pwede humiram ng reviewers.

i'm planning to take the exam on september or november.

thanks in advance! ;)

#2 arlf

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:14 AM

Hi! Can I have your email add so I can send you what my friend send me about the MCQ. Thanks. :D

M also planning to take the MCQ this September kasi.

#3 ReNBa ODenRoH

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:12 AM

Hi! Can I have your email add so I can send you what my friend send me about the MCQ. Thanks. :D

M also planning to take the MCQ this September kasi.

arlf, you can email me at amhornedomd@hotmail.com

#4 ReNBa ODenRoH

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 07:30 PM

thanks for your email, annie. linsey already emailed me, she said she will send me a copy of the cd-rom. :D

good luck!! :bye:

#5 romeo

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 08:01 PM

renba, sali ako diyan pwede? email: rom38(at)hotmail.com

#6 docpol

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 08:48 PM

Pasali rin po kung pwede: docpol@gmail.com Thanks in advance! :-)

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:48 PM

Hi! Can I have your email add so I can send you what my friend send me about the MCQ. Thanks. :D

M also planning to take the MCQ this September kasi.


Hi! :bye: ReNBa ODenRoH, ARLF, LINSEY et. al

I am planning to take the AMC MCQ soon. Email nyo rin ako at: gregutierrez@yahoo.com

Thanks! :D

#8 j_gawmd

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 03:12 PM

pwede pa po bang sumali? pasend din dito j_gawmd@yahoo.com.thanks :cool:

#9 ReNBa ODenRoH

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 08:30 PM

na email ko na sa inyo... ;) yung cd-rom di ko pa natatanggap pero baka di ko ma send sa inyo kasi dito ako sa aust ngayon :bye:

#10 gregutierrez

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:34 AM

ReNBa ODenRoH, ARLF, et. al,


Thank you guys! :)

#11 j_gawmd

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 04:40 AM

maraming salamat din. :bye:

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 08:52 AM

i checked the website

http://www.amc.org.au/exam.asp

does everyone need to take the exam?

or does it depend on the specialty? Ang gulo kasi yun website.

Anybody who's gone thru the process?

#13 gary

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 03:44 AM

:D doc renba pahabol din ako pls. gryongph@yahoo.com,pano b magapply for the exam? pano ginawa mo to go to australia?thanks in advance :)

#14 anika

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 05:19 PM

Were you able to take the exam? Please paupdate naman. Mahirap ba?

#15 Antigone

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 05:30 PM

ako din pasali ha. thanks.

chelpablo@gmail.com

thanks!

#16 okidok911

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 08:49 AM

Re-post ko lang yung title ng thread baka meron ng update.

AUSTRALIAN MEDICAL COUNCIL EXAMS
meron na ba nakakuha nito dito?

#17 carlshark

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 02:07 PM

I haven't, but I have requested Form A from AMC and it is expensive.

Starting November 2006 if I remember correctly, the AMC have started conducting off-shore exams, and the February 2007 exam has our local Prometric conducting the exam. Hopefully this will be made permanent.

Indians have a lot of experience on the AMC MCQs, and their website www.aippg.net is helpful. Not as much about the AMC exam per se, but their preparations for the PLAB and the AMC are similar.

My classmate was able to pass both steps with the same preparation as the USMLEs.

Be sure to pore over the questions that the AMC will be sending with your Form A application form.

#18 okidok911

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 07:32 PM

I hope your classmate gets employed soon after passing both steps. Maybe he can shed some light on the matter, here.

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 04:17 AM

hello i just passed my boards this february 2007 and i am very interested in taking the exams at australia...im really set on it... :)

but im really really lost... :crazy:

i tried checking www.amc.org.au..but im still lost... hehehe :wacko:

did u guys apply for a working visa first? and took the ielts first before applying for the exams?

i looked at the examination dates and saw AMC A - D and it will be given till august 2007, does this mean i have to wait for the next set before i can take it?

what have u guys been reviewing? i noticed no basic subjects are given, all clinicals...

any tips?


HELP please :)

#20 okidok911

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:12 AM

Hello jmee_ann! Welcome to pinoy.md :flag:

There are a lot of informations that you can get here, especially on the topic of AMC. As you can see, there is only 1 thread on AMC here but there are other informations that you can get here:

http://pinoy.md/ipb/...p?showtopic=943

http://pinoy.md/ipb/...p?showtopic=188

http://pinoy.md/ipb/...?showtopic=1028


Other sites where you can go to for the IELTS are:
http://www.britishco...tions-ielts.htm
http://www.idp.com/p...ts/article6.asp

Remember, you can inquire about stints as RMO, JMO and the like in Australian hospitals but they will not process your papers/application, or worse, they will not entertain you if you have yet to sit the IELTS. Just to reiterate, stress, and overemphasize, one has to take the IELTS first before applying for any job in Australia (I'm not mad ha :) ).

After the said exam, you can then apply as an RMO, JMO, or for other position, even if you have yet to sit the 2-part AMC exam, work, and earn.

Good luck jmee_ann! :) Enjoy your stay here!

*Suggesting to merge this thread with the lone thread of AMC

#21 ஜ dokta ஜ

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:15 AM

^ hello jmee_ann, welcome and congratulations on passing the board :bye:

here's my personal input on the AMC.

Employee/contractual pathway:
1) Passing the PRC makes you a GP in the Philippines but not in Australia. You still need to to go into Family Medicine Residency.
2) To be hired as a moonlighter or "locum" , you only need your (a) PRC, ( B ) IELTS and c) 2-3 years experience post-internship
3) Once hired and sponsored by your employer, you will be conditionally registered and given a year or two to pass the AMC.
4) AMC (Australian Medical Council) – consists of 2 parts (http://www.amc.org.au/exam.asp)
1- multiple choice examination (MCQ) is a test of the principles and practice
2- clinical assessment of clinical skills


Another pathway:(migration)
1) Migrate and be sponsored to "Areas of Need" scheme of the Australian Government
2) You need the IELTS for your migration visa
2) Once there, you will be given 1-2 years to pass the AMC
3) Once you pass the AMC , you now need to complete one year of supervised training – www.medeserv.com.au/pmc
4) Apply for registration depending on which state you’ll be practicing on.

Another pathway (fellowship)
1) Complete residency training
2) Take the IELTS
3) apply through fellowship training ( www.racgp.org.au)

Yet another pathway (marry an Australian), once there you can take the AMC at your own pace. :lol:

NB. For those who have successfully penetrated the Australian Medical System in other ways/pathways, please PM me the details. I am in the final stage of wrapping up an article on the basic know-hows and how-tos of securing that MD job overseas. I'll be submitting it for editing to Boss Muin within this week, so please do watch out for it everyone. :bye:

#22 marblesmd

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:32 AM

Will be looking forward to that article, Ma'am deadlysweet.

Hey okidok, maybe you can change the all caps to bold na lang (para hindi considered shouting), just a suggestion. :bye:

Hello jmee_ann! Congratulations on passing the boards and Welcome to PinoyMD! :bye:

#23 okidok911

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:43 AM

Thanks for that marblesmd! :)

@deadlysweet
I was about to make one also, but since you started it and voiced out your intent, might as well contribute nalang :) PM to you nalang.

#24 jmee_ann

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 08:07 AM

thanks so much for that info :D
and thanks for the warm welcome...
im not used to posting polls like this doctors so im sorry that i dont know how to merge? :blush:

next question po...so as a fresh from the boards md...u suggest that i take the ielts? then go there and take the internship for 2 years and that gives me ample time to do the amc?

has this worked for other mds?

thanks thanks again :tongue:

#25 Jojo Ferrer

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 11:57 AM

Done! Thanks okidok911.

*Suggesting to merge this thread with the lone thread of AMC



#26 okidok911

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 09:26 PM

next question po...so as a fresh from the boards md...u suggest that i take the ielts? then go there and take the internship for 2 years and that gives me ample time to do the amc?

has this worked for other mds?

thanks thanks again :tongue:


@jmee_ann
You can take the IELTS anytime. Requirements are not that hard to collect. Fee is around P8000. You can take it March 31 so you have ample time to study for it. People do fail the IELTS, simply because they were not familiar with the exam before they sat for it. I have reviewers available, that can be read or studied in your pc. PM me.

If you are set on embarking for a medical career in Oz, and delay, if not "not having your residency training in the Philippines", then a good several months of experience as an emergency physician (moonlighter) would definitely boost your application's credentials, because they will ask you for "experience". I don't know if you already have "experience" :eyebrows:. No malice there.

Another thing, for International Medical Graduates (IMG) such as us, residencies open for us later on would be in ED (Emergency Department or ER Med), Psychiatry and GP (general practice). IM, Pedia, Surgery, et al., are first given to Oz graduates. Why do I have to insert this, its because, if you plan to take ED, then Basic Life Support and Advanced Cardiac Life Support courses would definitely double boost your application and resume, even if you will apply for an internship.

After the "experience", IELTS, and the BLS and ACLS courses, then you can apply for a stint as an INTERN (rotating in different departments such as surgery, ob, pedia, and IM), which pays roughly P1.8M (converted) for 1 whole year of internship, or apply for an RMO (resident medical officer) or JMO (junior medical officer), which pays roughly P2M (converted, extra pay, overtime and "extra service" excluded). The RMO and JMO stints can last for a year. Responsibilities are greater as RMOs rather than being an intern (as it is here in Pinas). Renewable after contract expires. There are RMOs there in Oz that are already 35-40yo. Go to the different websites of the different hospitals in Oz. Google is your friend :). Email all you can.

You can take the AMC here in Pinas (recently offered here), take it there in Oz, or in any particular country that you wish, where it is offered. You might be vacationing in the Bahamas and suddenly thought of taking the AMC :)

This is getting lengthy. But I want to share more!

With respect to work hours, you work there 76 hours per fortnight, meaning 76 hours per 2 weeks, meaning 38 hours per week, at 8 hour shifts per day, so meaning, 5 days of work in a week, of 8 hour work shifts per day. Whew! After that, you get 2 days rest. If you work for 2 weeks straight, you get 4 days off, and if you work 30 days straight, you get 8 days off. And if you work 2 months straight, you get 16 days off (just enough time to go back to the Philippines, propose to your gf, and get married, this is actually non-fiction).

Not all that glitters are gold, and not all golds glitter. Living in another country that has a whole new different culture has its toll of racial discrimination, homesickness, etc, etc. Weigh your options. Make sure of what you want. This may be a speed bump in your medical career, but it "might" lead you to the highway of your happYness, or hopefully, not a dead end.

#27 draeger

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 07:42 AM

So...has anyone taken this exam?

May i add...once you're in oz you have 4 years to have yourself registered with amc (if you're coming here as a specialist without sitting for the AMC exam). That means EXAMS! You're specialty exam that is.

#28 Doc E

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 05:42 AM

Good Day!

Does any one have a CURRENT copy of the recommended books for reading:

1)Anothology of Medical Conditions.
2)Annotated Multiple Choice Questions.

If so, would you be willing to sell them or lend them out?

OR

Would anyone like to share in the purchase of these books?

PLease PM me.
Thanks!

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 07:42 PM

NB. For those who have successfully penetrated the Australian Medical System in other ways/pathways, please PM me the details. I am in the final stage of wrapping up an article on the basic know-hows and how-tos of securing that MD job overseas. I'll be submitting it for editing to Boss Muin within this week, so please do watch out for it everyone. :bye:


deadlysweet, how's that article? :)

#30 ஜ dokta ஜ

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 09:20 PM


NB. For those who have successfully penetrated the Australian Medical System in other ways/pathways, please PM me the details. I am in the final stage of wrapping up an article on the basic know-hows and how-tos of securing that MD job overseas. I'll be submitting it for editing to Boss Muin within this week, so please do watch out for it everyone. :bye:


deadlysweet, how's that article? :)



:blush: sent the article for editing sa mga moderators a couple of months ago pa......... :bye:

#31 mikemuin

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 10:06 AM

I sincerely apologize for not following this up with Jojo. He planned to edit and post it online at the main site but I think he got very busy. I will look into this ASAP. Again, I apologize. Thanks!

#32 Aaliyah

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 09:09 PM

Hi! Can I have your email add so I can send you what my friend send me about the MCQ. Thanks. :D

M also planning to take the MCQ this September kasi.



Hello. Did you already take the AMC-MCQ? How was it?
Im in Australia, and I'm planning to take the AMC next year. Can you lend me your MCQ recall/reviewer? PLs.
Just email me at maremd005@yahoo.com.
Thanks.

#33 Aaliyah

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 09:16 PM

Good Day!

Does any one have a CURRENT copy of the recommended books for reading:

1)Anothology of Medical Conditions.
2)Annotated Multiple Choice Questions.

If so, would you be willing to sell them or lend them out?

OR

Would anyone like to share in the purchase of these books?

PLease PM me.
Thanks!


Hello.
I would also like to have copies of those current books. Pls. email me asap at maremd005@yahoo.com.
Thanks.

#34 migs

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:17 PM

:laugh2:i will be taking the AMC po can you send din to me the copy of the cdrom? my email- migoynory@yahoo.com thanks!

#35 bleudsky_md

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 04:59 AM

hey there. i got this article from a friend after the board exams.

http://globalnation....rticle_id=75162

does anyone here have an update regarding this news - especially a list of "chosen universities" in which their graduates don't have to take the multiple choice exam & clinical exam?

my friends and i are waiting since 1 sep but we haven't got any word yet.

#36 patitay

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 06:42 AM

is anyone interested in purchasing the recommended reference (Anthology of medical conditions)? i had my friend order for me from oz and the book will be arriving middle of november. i was initially planning to take the amc but plans changed. unfortunately i already paid for the book so i really dont know what to do with it. pm me if interested. :)

#37 MEG710

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 02:23 AM

hello! good day! tanong ko lang kung saan ang testing center for AMC exam... :wub:

#38 okidok911

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 05:52 AM

The AMC Off-Shore MCQ examination is held in the following venues:

OFF-SHORE VENUES

• Amman
• Bangkok
• Beijing
• Cairo
• Dublin
• Dubai
• Hong Kong
• Jakarta
• Kuala Lumpur
• London
• Manila (unspecified where exactly in Manila, I don't think this helps)
• Oman
• Paris
• Riyadh
• Singapore
• Tokyo

ON-SHORE VENUES (Australia and New Zealand)
• Auckland
• Adelaide
• Brisbane
• Canberra
• Melbourne
• Perth
• Sydney


IMPORTANT NOTE: The listed venues are subject to change. The MCQ Section will
notify of any changes on the AMC website.

This is from the AMC website.

#39 Aaliyah

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 03:53 PM

I haven't, but I have requested Form A from AMC and it is expensive.

Starting November 2006 if I remember correctly, the AMC have started conducting off-shore exams, and the February 2007 exam has our local Prometric conducting the exam. Hopefully this will be made permanent.

Indians have a lot of experience on the AMC MCQs, and their website www.aippg.net is helpful. Not as much about the AMC exam per se, but their preparations for the PLAB and the AMC are similar.

My classmate was able to pass both steps with the same preparation as the USMLEs.

Be sure to pore over the questions that the AMC will be sending with your Form A application form.


hello kabayan.
Do you already have the AMC-MCQ reviewer/s? Can you pls. send me a copy? I'm in Australia right now. My email add is maremd005@yahoo.com.
Thanks a lot.

#40 Aaliyah

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 04:11 PM

is anyone interested in purchasing the recommended reference (Anthology of medical conditions)? i had my friend order for me from oz and the book will be arriving middle of november. i was initially planning to take the amc but plans changed. unfortunately i already paid for the book so i really dont know what to do with it. pm me if interested. :)


Hello.
Im in Australia right now and I'm planning to take the AMC. Do you have the AMC-MCQ reviewer? I'm willing to pay for it if you can send me sana. My email add is maremd005@yahoo.com.
Thanks.

#41 MEG710

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 07:53 PM

hello aaliyah!! when are you planning to take the AMC? feedback naman jan kung easy ba ang exam.. :eyebrows: 'coz i'm planning to take the exam after my licensure boards..

saan ka ba nag-apply for the exam? magkano lahat ang nagastos mo? ano ang mga review materials ginamit mo?

hope you can help me with my questions... :mrgreen:

Good luck on your exam!!!! :bye:

#42 red

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 08:07 AM

hi! thanks for the info. i'm still lost though. actually, i haven't taken the Phil boards yet but I will, soon. it would be nice to know where i'm headed just in case i pass the boards para ma-motivate naman ako mag-review. hehe. my mom's based in the uae and they have free weekly seminars there for those who have residency visa. the people behind the seminars help people migrate to australia. included ang doctors sa list. dunno if it will be easier for me to go to australia through that pathway kasi balita ko if i'll be coming from pinas, mas marami ding requirements. do i really need post-internship experience before i apply? some people also suggest taking additional courses in oz. they claim that it will be easier to enter oz's training program that way. what are the recommended reviewers and where can i purchase them? may review center ba sa pinas? how much will i need all in all? ang primary goal ko kasi is to work asap, kahit GP lang muna or kung may mas madali pang pathway dun, i'll probably use that. please suggest the easiest pathway for someone who wants to earn asap. madali din bang mag-apply for australian citizenship eventually? thanks thanks! :-)

#43 deathnote

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 11:33 PM

Nakuha ko lang sa internet ito
FAQS for AMC Exams
3 MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS U NEED FOR AMC PART 1 EXAM ARE..

1.ANNOTATED MULTIPLE CHOISE QUESTIONS

2.ANTHOLOGY OF CLINICAL MEDICINE

3.CLINICAL PRACTICE BY JOHN MURTAG..

OTHER BOOKS U CAN HAVE ARE..SUGGESTED TEXT BOOKS

MEDICINE

Devitt P, Barker J, Mitchell J and Hamilton-Craig C. Clinical Problems In General Medicine, 2nd edn. Churchill Livingstone, 2003, ISN 0443073236.
www.elsevier.com.au

Edwards C and Bouchier IA (eds). Davidson’s Principles and Practice of Medicine, 18th edn. Livingstone, Edinburgh, 1999, ISBN 0443059446.
www.harcourt.com.au/healthprof/

Braunwald, E. Harrison’s Principles of Internal Medicine, 15th edn. McGraw-Hill, New York, 2001. ISBN 0070072744 (hardcover). ISBN 0079136869 (hardcover, 2 volume set). ISBN 0071374795 (CD-ROM)
www.bookstore.mcgraw-hill.com

Larkins R, Smallwood R. Clinical Skills: The Medical Interview, Physical Examination and Assessment of the Patient’s Problems. Melbourne University Press, Melbourne, 1994. ISBN 0522844677 (paperback).
www.mup.unimelb.edu.au

Lau L. Imaging Guidelines, 4th edn. The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Radiologists, Melbourne, 2001. ISBN 0959285415.
www.ranzcr.edu.au

Talley NJ, O’Connor S. Clinical Examination: A Systematic Guide to Physical Diagnosis. 4th edn MacLennan & Petty, Sydney, 2001. ISBN 0864331444,
www.maclennanpetty.com.au

Weatherall DJ, Ledingham JGG, Warrell DA (eds). Oxford Textbook of Medicine, 3rd edn. Oxford University Press, New York, 1996. ISBN 0192621408 (set of 3).
mnemosyne.oup-usa.org/medical


SURGERY

Clunie GJA, Tjandra JJ, Thomas R.S.J. Textbook of Surgery, 2nd edn Blackwell Science Asia, Melbourne, 2001. ISBN 0867930233.
www.blacksci.co.uk/australi/books.htm

Clunie GJA, Tjandra JJ, Ross H. MCQ’s and Short Answer Questions for Surgery. Blackwell Science Asia, Melbourne, 1999. Paperback. ISBN 0867930101.
www.blacksci.co.uk/australi/books.htm

Forrest AP, Carter DC, MacLeod IB. Principles and Practice of Surgery - A Surgical Supplement to Davidson’s Principles and Practice of Medicine, 3rd edn. Churchill Livingstone, Edinburgh, 1995. ISBN 0443048606
www.us.elsevierhealth.com

Hunt PS, Marshall VC. Clinical Problems in General Surgery. Butterworths, Sydney, 1991. ISBN 0409492132. This publication is out of print and only available second hand.

Morris PJ, Malt RA. Oxford Textbook of Surgery, 2nd edn. Oxford University Press, New York, 2001. ISBN 0192628844 (three volume set).
mnemosyne.oup-usa.org/medical

Williamson R. An Aid to Clinical Surgery, 6th edn. Churchill Livingstone, Edinburgh, 1998. ISBN 044305603X.
www.us.elsevierhealth.com


PAEDIATRICS

Hull D, Johnston D. Essential Paediatrics, 4th edn. Churchill Livingstone, Edinburgh, 1999. ISBN 0443059586.
www.us.elsevierhealth.com

Robinson MJ, Roberton DM. Practical Paediatrics, 5th edn. Churchill Livingstone, Melbourne, 2002. ISBN 044307139X.
www.us.elsevierhealth.com

Royal Children’s Hospital (Melbourne, Vic.). Paediatric Handbook, 6th edn. Blackwell Science Asia, Melbourne, 2000. ISBN 086793011X
www.blacksci.co.uk/australi/books.htm

National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC). The Australian Immunisation Handbook. 7th edn. Australian Government Printing Service 2000. ISBN 0644475781
http://www.health.go....blications.htm


OBSTETRICS & GYNAECOLOGY

Beischer NA, Mackay EV. Obstetrics and the Newborn - An Illustrated Text, 3rd edn. WB Saunders, Sydney 1998. ISBN 0702021237.
www.us.elsevierhealth.com

Llewellyn-Jones D. Fundamentals of Obstetrics & Gynaecology. Mosby, London 1999, 7th edn ISBN 0723431507.
www.mosby.com
Mackay EV, Beischer NA, Pepperell R, Wood C. Illustrated Textbook of Gynaecology, 2nd edition, WB Saunders, Sydney 1992. ISBN 0729512118.
www.us.elsevierhealth.com

PSYCHIATRY

Gelder M, Gath D, Mayou R. The Oxford Textbook of Psychiatry, 3rd edn, Oxford University Press, 1996. ISBN 0192625004 (paperback).
mnemosyne.oup-usa.org/medical

American Psychiatric Association. DSM-IV-TR: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edn text revision. American Psychiatric Association, Washington DC, 2000. ISBN 0890420254 (paperback); ISBN 0890420246 (hardback).
www.psych.org

GENERAL PRACTICE

Murtagh J. General Practice, 2nd edn. Hardcover. McGraw Hill Australia 1998. ISBN 0074704362 Softcover edn 1999, ISBN 0074707191.
www.bookstore.mcgraw-hill.com

MISCELLANEOUS

Therapeutic Guidelines from Therapeutic Guidelines Limited, North Melbourne, Vic..
www.tg.com.au

Therapeutic Guidelines: Analgesic Version 4, 2002
Therapeutic Guidelines: Antibiotic Version 12, 2003
Therapeutic Guidelines: Cardiovascular Version 4, 2003
Therapeutic Guidelines: Dermatology Version 2, 2004
Therapeutic Guidelines: Endocrinology Version 3, 2004
Therapeutic Guidelines: Gastrointestinal Version 3, 2002
Therapeutic Guidelines: Neurology Version 2, 2002
Therapeutic Guidelines: Palliative Care Version 1, 2001
Therapeutic Guidelines: Psychotropic Version 5, 2003
Therapeutic Guidelines: Respiratory Version 2, 2000

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:07 PM

thanks ichigo :-) sana meron sa local bookstores niyan. hehe.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 05:50 AM

Basic Information about AMC Examinations...

What you need to know about the MCQ and Clinical exam.
Information from the exam specification book by AMC


The AMC MCQ Exam is a computer administered, integrated examination over a total of 6 hours, consisting of 250 questions, divided into a morning and afternoon session of 125 question per session. It is conducted 5 times a year, in centers within Australia only. Dates for the exam and fees can be found at the AMC's website.

The MCQ exam covers a range of conditions in the disciplines of:

Medicine 65 questions
Surgery 50 questions
Pediatrics 35 questions
Obstetrics and Gynecology 30 questions
Psychiatry 20 questions


Of which only 200 is scored, and 50 is not scored.
The non-scored questions will test and calibrate new questions, which may be used in future exams, but will not be counted towards the overall score for the candidate.
Of the 200 scored questions, 60 questions are called mastery questions dealing with conditions and issues critical to the safety or outcome of the patient and those which are important in an Australian setting. These are identified by an asterisk.

Candidates will also require the knowledge of the pathogenesis, clinical features, investigative findings, differential diagnosis, management and treatment. Some questions will require basic knowledge while others will test a candidates ability to distinguish between correct diagnosis and differentials. Questions contain clinical scenarios, some with ECGs, Xrays, CTScans, MRI's and other clinical photographs. Books recommended includes the Annotated Multiple Choice Question and the Anthology of Medical Conditions.
The MCQ exam have questions with Type A format, meaning one correct response in 5 choices. One has to choose the BEST answer.
Questions not attempted will not count against the examinee, and marks will not be deducted for incorrect answers. So, try answering everything!!! Just an advice, don't stay too long on a question cause you might not have enough time for the rest of the questions. If you're not confident of your answer or cannot take a guess, leave it first, but do put a mark on your scratch paper (given to you during the exam) and make sure you'll go back to it once you're done answering the rest. Time is ticking, so divide your time between the questions!!!

Candidates are required to obtain a pass standard in the MCQ exam in order to proceed to the Clinical exam. The MCQ examination operates as a pass/fail exam with pass mark set at the level of knowledge required by Australian Medical schools for their final year graduates. Advanced statistical methods are used to equate the raw score by separate derived measures of the candidate's ability and item difficulty to a standard scale. The 200 scored items and the 60 mastery items are scored and converted to the AMC scale. For the 200 scored items, the pass mark is set at 250 on the AMC scale, and for the mastery (two thirds of the mastery questions) is at 300 on the AMC scale. To pass, you have to satisfy both criteria!!!!

During application, you will be given a unique AMC reference number when you are determined to be eligible to take the exam. This reference number will assist in the processing of results and minimize the possibilty of error. Results will generally be available one month after the exam.


Now for the clinical exam. You have to meet the pass standard before being eligible to proceed to the clinical exam.
This exam requires the candidate to dmeonstrate an understanding of the basic concepts of disease processes across a broad range of disciplines and how these produce deviation from the normal.

A candidate has to be familiar with the concepts of disease processes, able to discuss mechanisms of the conditions, and be familiar with the indications or adverse effects of therapeutic agents. These factors, of course should apply to the Australian community.

The clinical exam consist of multistation structural clinical assessment of clinical skills. It is conducted in 4 separate series per year on specific saturdays in Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane. Closing dates of exams and fees may be found at the AMC's website.

Candidates applying for the clinical exam may be given a clinical position after application for placement. However, the AMC cannot guaratee to place an applicant in his/her preferred center although it will endeavor to do so wherever possible. Books for this exam, according to those who have taken it are:

General Practice - John Murtagh
Clinical Examination - Talley, O'Connor
Patient Education - John Murtagh

Scheduling for the clinical exam will be on a priority basis:
First attempt candidates will have priority over repeat attempt candidates
Time since MCQ will be taken into consideration
Candidates will be ranked in order of merit based on overall MCQ exam
Candidates with fewer attempts will have priority over those with higher number of attempts.

Candidates are scheduled for a single morning or afternoon examination, which takes around 3 or 4 hours. There will be 20 stations, of which 16 is scored + 4 rest stations. The exam includes 3 Obstetrics/Gynecology and 3 pediatrics stations. Some may be unobserved, others may be link to other stations. You are generally given 8 minutes per station plus 2 minutes for changing of stations. Stations may have actual or role-playing patients.

Clear pass means obtaining a pass score in 12 or more stations including at least one pass in OB/GYN, and at least one in Pediatrics.
Marginal performance means a pass in 10 or 11 stations. You have to take a re-test consisting of 10 stations (8 scored and 2 rest), of which you need to pass at least 6 of them. If you get less than 6 stations in this re-test, you will be given a fail mark.
Clear fail means passing in 9 or less stations or fails in all three OB/GYN or fails in all three Pediatrics station.

For further informations just check out their website:
http://www.amc.org.au/exam.asp
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#46 okidok911

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 06:07 AM

A lot have been said regarding AMC Exams. I was just wondering if we can get tips from those actual docs who have sat the said exams. Cheers!

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:34 AM

that's really comprehensive ichigo. thanks. :-)

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 08:27 AM

that's really comprehensive ichigo. thanks. :-)



hi red,

when are you planning to take the AMC? anyway, regarding the book, Anthology of Medical Conditions, i have a new copy that i'm selling. PM me if interested. good luck rin with whichever pathway your planning to take! =)

#49 vanguard88

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 08:50 AM

wala ba dito sa inyo kukuha ng amc on july1 2008? sana we could form a group or something para magshare tayu ng notes at mga patok na questions hehehehe. di pa popular pathway to pero mas maganda ang oppurtunities pag australian licensed ka kesa sa pinas. at ive read that canada and australia are planning to recognise the exams . so your eligible to both canada at autralia. is this right? please email me or message me up kung sinu kukuha kasi parang i feel alone. mas maganda pag marami tayu to have moral and social support.

#50 vanguard88

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 08:58 AM

wala ba dito sa inyo kukuha ng amc on july1 2008? sana we could form a group or something para magshare tayu ng notes at mga patok na questions hehehehe. di pa popular pathway to pero mas maganda ang oppurtunities pag australian licensed ka kesa sa pinas. at ive read that canada and australia are planning to recognise the exams . so your eligible to both canada at autralia. is this right? please email me or message me up kung sinu kukuha kasi parang i feel alone. mas maganda pag marami tayu to have moral and social support.



Sa plaagay ko mas maganda opputunities mo kung makapasa kadito instead of residency. Sa palagay mo tama ba ako?
Totoo ba yung naread ko na pag nakapasa ka sa mcq exam eh. inaalow ka ng amc to go to any hospital for hosp training supervision for one year in preparation for the clinical? Does this mean pag nakapasa ka for sure ba na tatanggapin ka ng hospital sa australia kung aaply ka kasi u need a one yaer clinical supervisioon before taking the clinical exam.

another query is kung may bayad ba yang hospital supervision mo? salamat!